Isaac Turansky, 76, a retired salesman who had taken his 11-year-old grandson Drew to the game, was a little more concise.

But William Queen, a retired salesman, seemed to capture the city's ambivalence.

As Albert A. Silverman, a retired salesman who is active in town politics.

The other is an 81-year-old retired salesman, Carl Steindler.

His parents, Kenneth, a retired salesman, and Elaine, a supervisor of physical education in the Baldwin school system, still live there.

Mr. Mariani - a retired salesman who is 71 years old and who does not really need this job - was polite but firm.

Dan Bacon, a retired salesman of school maps and a professional wildlife photographer, talked recently about the wolf preserve.

Still, her husband Joe, a retired salesman, said he was making sure everything in his basement was off the floor.

"I think he's right," said Dale Passow, a retired salesman.

A retired salesman, he has begun a new career at 73, distributing used books to charitable institutions.