For older agents who knew these people there's a different issue, what you might expect: anger, betrayal.

The highest rates occurred among older agents, which have been discontinued.

"Allstate was trying to get rid of the older agents," he told the court.

"Whether I wanted to or not, I've proved myself to be a true son of the old agent!"

The older agent followed him slowly, shaking his head in disbelief and disgust.

Nobody believes that the older agent has gone over the wall to join the other side.

He was a native agent, 49 years old, and born in Kaiapoi.

Chardy had said only, "It's a thing an old agent would do."

I turned to the old agent and whispered something about the defense having no shame, dragging the kid into it.

Injuries, especially with older free agents, are often a factor.