Yet she had won them both over without half trying.
I don't know if they can win it without me.
Why take military action when we have won without it?
But if you can win without your A game, that's good.
"We'd won 40 games in the last 4 years without a lot to show for it."
Aren't great players above the rules because their teams can't win without them?
"We did win without him in a limited amount of time."
But to win without force may take a thousand years- or a million.
He almost certainly would not have won without their extraordinary support.
The peace of mind that they produce however is won not without some costs.