No one really wants to engage with the human cost of it.
If this is where they want to engage, then so be it!
But at a certain point, isn't it only human to want to engage this man?
Like I said before if you want to engage me then debate my argument.
But I want you to then engage me in something about my business.
Of course artists want people to engage with their work.
They are, and I, of course, want to engage with them.
If they want to engage in a conversation about that, great.
Obviously he didn't want to engage in the discussion then.
Neither did he want her to engage him in any talk of that sort.