"I can tell you, I'm pretty sure they're not here to be sushi chefs," he said.

He became a sushi chef there, but eventually wanted to do things his own way.

"Everyone knows a real sushi chef must be Japanese," he said.

Once a month they hire a sushi chef and hold a dinner party.

The major change is in the relationship between the sushi chef and the customer.

The sushi chef wasn't watching exactly, but he was there.

Or the sushi chef at that place you spend so much time and money?

For a woman to become a sushi chef in Japan has been easier since 1999.

But laws alone weren't keeping women from becoming sushi chefs.

"He could see my passion to become a sushi chef," she said.