"Now this window has opened up and we can see them as people."
Once they begin to see themselves as people again, most of the hard work will be done.
"I think we need to see leaders as people," Cooper told me recently.
Company lawyers can be seen as people who didn't have it in them to work at a law firm.
Perhaps because there, they just seem to see their characters as "people".
We were not seen as whole people, with good and bad traits.
"I wanted to see these kids as people, not just athletes," he said.
I see them as people who have done well in the last five years here.
"My daughter sees men as people who go in and out of our life," she said.
We see them as people who can have a better quality of life.