Clearly, according to that criteria, public radio is doing something right.

"I think public radio needs to be about more than music programming."

The show is the first ever Arabic hour on public radio.

"I see it as public radio in a new place."

"The mission of public radio has never been to make money," she said.

Glass has worked in public radio for some 30 years.

"The thing a lot of people in public radio don't get is that I'm on their side."

It also runs the state's public radio and television networks.

I do not get a lot of public radio for one simple reason.

On the other side are people who say public radio must adapt or die.