Lawyers for those accused of drunken driving have said the law violates constitutional rights by presuming guilt before trial.

The Drug Trafficking Offences Act 1986 presumes guilt in a different way again.

Until they are, you're no better than the Guantanamo authorities - presuming guilt until innocence is established.

What is offensive about the law is this: It presumes guilt.

"There are situations when I do think you need to presume guilt over innocence," he said.

Some defense lawyers have expressed concern about gun courts, saying they tend to presume guilt and result in harsher sentences.

And the chatroom is telling me that - they're saying France does not presume guilt until proven innocent.

However, this law, this act of law does presume guilt.

Fairly or not, many Koreans already presume guilt.

These acts, however, in presuming guilt rather than innocence, were not such a startling departure as the Hammonds thought.