This picture, a big success, pulled Universal out of bankruptcy.
"When we took the building out of bankruptcy in 1999, it had close to 600 violations," he said.
After three years in 1960, Guardian came out of bankruptcy.
They're not going to do anything until they get out of bankruptcy.
Its other option is to take itself out of bankruptcy.
"The company will come out of bankruptcy in good shape," he said.
"The worst thing you could do is get yourself out of bankruptcy and then end up right back into it."
And he is still not sure when United will get out of bankruptcy.
I spent the first three months trying to keep the company out of bankruptcy.
For three years, the family has fought hard to keep the center out of bankruptcy.