Crimmins called him a meat puppet and that's exactly what he was, right from the beginning.
Their first show, in the summer of 1985, was a 20-minute opening spot for the Meat Puppets.
But only the Meat Puppets would click a little bit.
This was the first release from the then new line-up of the Meat Puppets.
Live is a 2002 live album by the Meat Puppets.
Hearing these two songs made me realize something essential about the Meat Puppets and the sources they drew from.
"People don't have to buy a ticket to a Meat Puppets show in advance, because it's too loose and cool," he said.
His first photo shoot was with rock band The Meat Puppets.
Who wants to risk becoming a Caeliar meat puppet?