Lawyers and lobbyists should never try to put themselves in that position.

But despite the committee changes, some lobbyists are trying to dampen expectations that a major environmental agenda can speed through Congress.

Students keep a food journal and learn how lobbyists try to influence federal dietary recommendations.

At the same time, interest groups and lobbyists are trying to protect or expand other programs.

Just as lobbyists try to maximize the convention, so do the lawmakers they court.

Until the final count, however, lobbyists on both sides of the issue were furiously trying to make their case.

"Our lobbyists have tried to explain to them that they will end up losing money this way, but that message hasn't gotten through."

She said lobbyists have often tried to resolve issues with the staff, avoiding public fights in committee rooms or on the House floor.

The lobbyist then tries to persuade that person to take his client's side.

The companies are watching carefully lest other lobbyists try to slip the tougher provisions back in.