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But one industry lawyer said that those talks, which he described as "feelers," were at a very early stage.

A deal with United or American would also be expected to raise antitrust concerns, industry lawyers said yesterday.

At times, the research underwritten by industry lawyers bordered on the absurd.

At a meeting of industry lawyers, one lawyer noted they were making "advocacy primary and research secondary."

Tobacco executives and industry lawyers also declined to comment.

But industry lawyers said the different outcomes showed the commission's arbitrariness.

Some tobacco industry lawyers and others involved in the case speculated that the public reaction last month might have played a role.

You want producers, executives, industry lawyers and even TV people.

Originally, it was written by industry lawyers for review and adoption by city government.