"Do you want to have good-tasting food and die?"

"If you want good-tasting food you need to use a good amount of fat," he said.

So, not out of fear of perfluorooctanoic acid, or PFOA, but because I like good-tasting food, I use stainless steel pans and cast iron.

The suggested menu on this page shows how good-tasting food can also be nutritious.

Before the tasting, Dr. Ornish, who brought copies of his new book with him, gave an hourlong slide presentation of his work and discussed how healthy eating can be synonymous with good-tasting food.

"It fills a void: a good-tasting convenient food that is also good for you, rather than grabbing a candy bar or things that are fast but not healthy."

But then we all start calling our friends, and telling them to come here, take a break, have some good-tasting food.

"In Europe, yogurt is a good-tasting food that is healthy for you," Mr. Kunz added.

Learn the secrets to cooking healthy and knowing how to make good-tasting food without all the fat and cholesterol.