The candidates come to see him, even some on the Republican side.
"One candidate will come in and others feel that if they're not here too, they need to be."
That opinion may have changed as each candidate came and went.
The Democratic candidate came in a distant third with 6%.
The actual candidates came in at places two and three.
But it might make the candidates come a little closer to the truth.
The two candidates come to the race with very different perspectives.
A candidate can leave a glow - and also come away with one.
"The Democratic candidates came out of the convention with a good message," he said.
Nobody can claim they won't know these candidates come primary time.