These days, the President talks almost as much as Mr. Perot about program cuts, bureaucratic bloat and government waste.

Finally, it is regarded by some critics as another example of self-perpetuating bureaucratic bloat.

They cheered Rendell when he talked about standing up to the municipal unions and slashing bureaucratic bloat.

In scrapping the Navy Material Command, he abolished an entire layer of bureaucratic bloat.

Mr. Giuliani said then that moving the board to a smaller, more modern building would force it to reduce bureaucratic bloat.

Mr. Holbrooke described himself as "a hard-line hawk on the issue of bureaucratic bloat, whether it's in Washington or New York."

Democratic lawmakers said that paying two men, in effect, as chancellor would amount to bureaucratic bloat.

The problem of bureaucratic bloat, some observers say, is not confined to education; it is a part of American life.

Gov. George Pataki was wrong to suggest that the education cuts in his budget proposal could come out of bureaucratic bloat, with no damage to classroom instruction.

That would force it to drastically reduce bureaucratic bloat, he said.