That business about corporate discounts may be even more important.

Those planning a trip may want to go to the visitors bureau Web site or check with the following hotels about special discounts.

But the rules also put a new focus on previously obscure information about how many copies of each paper are sold and at what discounts.

Here is basic information about discounts you can ask for on airlines and in hotels.

The posted rate of $37.50 a night instantly dropped to $25 when I asked about discounts at the front desk.

These are times when it can be impossible to get a flight or a hotel room, period - forget about discounts.

Rooms are $119 to $155, with breakfast, but ask about discounts.

Travelers should also ask about the family, senior citizen and other possible special-group discounts.

It offers information about discounts at dozens of cultural attractions.

For Europe, this is in particular information about rail passes, discounts and high speed train tickets.