Real change isn't on the level of general life at all.
But just ask anyone who's ever made a real change for the better.
At times in the last two years, real change seemed possible.
But the real change came when hard economic times hit California several years ago.
As he says only the people can bring about real change.
He said real change could take 5 to 10 years.
They're the sort of women who are needed to make the real changes.
"I think the working people of this country are ready for a real change in government."
So there isn't going to be any real change for a long time.
"Maybe that would have been fine a week or so ago, but now we want real changes in the way the Government works."