That the leading Palestinian politicians say they feel a need to find out the facts for themselves is itself extraordinary.

While expressing irritation with both leaders for the repeated crises, most Palestinian politicians appeared to expect the two men to reach another compromise.

But some Palestinian politicians and academics have raised the issue recently in the belief it could put pressure on Israel.

There is a pointed joke making the rounds of Palestinian politicians here.

But Palestinian politicians said today that real reform would speed their pursuit of a state.

But often it seems the security forces are not taking orders from any Palestinian politicians.

But, Palestinian politicians say, it has also done a better job of staying close to the people and guarding a reputation for incorruptibility.

Some Palestinian politicians say Israel should offer several options for refugees, including a right of return.

But for now, no Palestinian politician will dare to move.

Until the Palestinian politicians and population accept Israel's right to exist, pursuit of the "peace process" is illusory.