Three more measures, the lobbyists said, have a good chance to pass.

But lobbyists for those groups and their supporters in Congress said the changes did not go far enough.

Now, the lobbyists say, their time has come and they are not being shy.

Lobbyists, too, said they did not expect action during the current session.

Lobbyists from the financial services industry said they expected that a deal could ultimately be reached.

Their lobbyists say they are joining the effort to sell the bill to build up good will with the administration.

But lobbyists and others involved on both sides of the issue said it is not clear what form the final legislation will take.

"Our pace is about the same," said a lobbyist for another large trade association.

Changing the drug sentences seemed a lost cause for the moment, lobbyists said.

Lobbyists and lawmakers say that this year could be different.