Johnson talked about a meeting he had with his team on Monday.
Buckley conceded that Johnson "wasn't talking to me, and he made a great play on the fade."
Johnson was hardly talking like a naive crusader, not after nine seasons and five teams.
When it was over, Johnson sat before a group of reporters and talked about his journey from the beer truck to the leader board.
Johnson had been talking about Howard Dean for about a year.
But Johnson and Cerf also talked a lot about having a good time.
Johnson talked about mild interest from Japan that didn't intrigue him and a more promising recent contact with a major league club.
The pitch Johnson was talking about was the next home run ball.
The news media complain that Johnson talks a lot.
At the time Johnson would not talk about his reasons for the move.