"Just sort of weird," Baker recalled the other day.

Baker, whom Alexander includes as one of the people with the greatest influence on his life, recalls that his protege needed little training.

Baker later recalled the composer as "a very polite, retiring man, looking more like a businessman than a composer of successful musicals."

It was extraordinary," Baker later recalled.

"I had a good baseline game and he had a good net game," Baker recalls.

"I told Bruce not to do this type of demonstration again", Baker recalled.

In this oral history interview, Baker recalls the challenges and triumphs he and his staff experienced during the Historical Office's first 30 years.

Baker recalls that they kept wearing out the tape, which meant having to do transfers.

Baker, 53, recalled the story as a way of cutting off discussion about his status with the Giants.

"There was no rush," Baker recalled.